Comments on: the problem with frameworks http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128 Technical Blog for Software Developers Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:49:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Viddo http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-452 Viddo Mon, 18 May 2009 18:44:15 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-452 Also, I strongly recommend one to use XDebug (or equal) to be able to debug more effeciently, just as with any programming language. That way you could also have found the problem more quickly. But of course, everything (reading the manual, debugging etc) complements each other :) http://xdebug.com/ http://devzone.zend.com/article/2803-Introducing-xdebug Also, I strongly recommend one to use XDebug (or equal) to be able to debug more effeciently, just as with any programming language. That way you could also have found the problem more quickly. But of course, everything (reading the manual, debugging etc) complements each other :)

http://xdebug.com/
http://devzone.zend.com/article/2803-Introducing-xdebug

]]> By: Gregg http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-451 Gregg Mon, 18 May 2009 09:59:45 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-451 Thanks for the comments guys. I will take a look at the links you have suggested. Thanks for the comments guys. I will take a look at the links you have suggested.

]]> By: Jeroen van der Gulik http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-450 Jeroen van der Gulik Mon, 18 May 2009 09:48:15 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-450 Take a look at CodeIgniter. It has very good documentation and is much easier to grasp than most PHP frameworks. Take a look at CodeIgniter. It has very good documentation and is much easier to grasp than most PHP frameworks.

]]> By: Donald Organ http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-449 Donald Organ Mon, 18 May 2009 02:33:41 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-449 Take a look at Andromeda it is a PHP based Meta Data drive business Rule framework. http://www.andromeda-project.org Take a look at Andromeda it is a PHP based Meta Data drive business Rule framework.

http://www.andromeda-project.org

]]> By: Gregg http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-448 Gregg Fri, 15 May 2009 13:40:02 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-448 It's not really a problem with the framework per say. However, the more complicated and the greater the functionality provided the harder it becomes to know every part of it - or for that matter find the correct part of the documentation as can happen in the MSDN docs. In my situation it was a case of not paying enough attention to the documentation, but I wanted to state it as problem with the framework as an example of how easy it is to heap blame on something else. No doubt there will also be cases when the documentation itself is poor. One other problem was also that debugging the PHP stuff was not as straightforward as firing up Visual Studio and putting in a breakpoint. It’s not really a problem with the framework per say. However, the more complicated and the greater the functionality provided the harder it becomes to know every part of it – or for that matter find the correct part of the documentation as can happen in the MSDN docs. In my situation it was a case of not paying enough attention to the documentation, but I wanted to state it as problem with the framework as an example of how easy it is to heap blame on something else. No doubt there will also be cases when the documentation itself is poor. One other problem was also that debugging the PHP stuff was not as straightforward as firing up Visual Studio and putting in a breakpoint.

]]> By: Richie B http://equivalence.co.uk/archives/1128/comment-page-1#comment-447 Richie B Fri, 15 May 2009 13:19:11 +0000 http://www.equivalence.co.uk/?p=1128#comment-447 Yip, we've all done it, steaming ahead without fully reading the documentation. Is that a problem with frameworks or a problem with the developers who use them? Is it reasonable to expect us to have to RTFM or is it a failing of the framework or library if it is not instantly obvious how it should be used? Yip, we’ve all done it, steaming ahead without fully reading the documentation. Is that a problem with frameworks or a problem with the developers who use them? Is it reasonable to expect us to have to RTFM or is it a failing of the framework or library if it is not instantly obvious how it should be used?

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